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6 Aspects of Justification in the New Perspective on Paul

I’ve recently been trying to get a clearer understanding of the New Perspective on Paul. This is an approach to understanding the doctrines outlined in Paul’s letters that is gaining increasing popularity among evangelicals. Tom Wright’s book on Justification is one book that gives a good outline of this approach.

I have jotted down six main aspects of justification from the new perspective. These are just starting points in my understanding of this viewpoint. But I trust that they are helpful in seeing some of the similarities and differences of the new perspective and traditional evangelical understanding of the teachings of Paul.

1. Justification is the result of responding to the gospel.

The doctrine of justification is not the gospel. The gospel is primarily the message of Christ’s death and resurrection. Justification is the result of responding to the gospel. When we have done so God not only takes away our sin through Jesus death but also gives us righteousness through the Christ’s resurrection resulting in our justification.

2. Justification depends on the righteousness of Christ

The new perspective denies the doctrine of ‘imputed righteousness’ – i.e. the teaching that Christ’s righteousness is transferred to individuals so that on judgement day that is what God sees. But Wright still says God declares us righteous on the basis of Christ’s righteousness. So how can this be? The next two points explain.

3. Justification is the result of us being ‘in Christ’

Rather than Christ’s righteousness being given to us God simply declares us righteous because as we are ‘in Christ’. As I understand it this means that, rather than God looking at us each in turn and seeing the righteousness of Christ, God looks at Christ and he sees us, the church, as the body of Christ standing there together.

4. Justification is collective rather than individual

Justification & New Perspective on PaulWright argues that the Bible’s narrative culminates in both Jews and Gentiles coming into Christ as one new man. God’s purpose is not primarily about individual salvation but about the creation of a community. Together as part of this new creation we inherit the promises God made to Israel and so enjoy the blessings of the covenant.

5. Justification also depends on the Holy Spirit

Wright emphasises the need to trust in Holy Spirit to keep us ‘in Christ’ so that ultimately we will be judged to be righteous ‘in Christ’ on the day of judgement. However I don’t think Wright is saying that it is possible to lose our salvation as he also argues for the doctrine of assurance. Indeed, the sixth point emphasises this.

6. Justification fills us with joy and anticipation

As Christians we have been declared righteous in Christ. Eschatologically we look forward with great joy to the day when this same verdict will be announced. We live out our righteousness and make every effort to remain in Christ. We have the joy of knowing that our standing before God doesn’t depend on our efforts but God’s Spirit.

What do you think?

I trust that some of these points will add to your understanding of the New Perspective on Paul. I have tried to put them in my own words and I am still trying to get this viewpoint clear in my mind. Please feel free to let me know what you think about how I’ve expressed these six aspects and what you might add to this list.

Related Posts

Justification: Has Wright Got It Right? – a post from a couple of years ago on my old blog

Further Reading

Understanding Justification – a short review and some quotes from N.T. Wright’s book compiled by David Matthew

Current Trends of Thought on Paul and the Gospel by David Matthew

Justification and the New Perspective – a post by Scott Lencke from 2009

The Justification Debate: A Primer – a Christianity Today article from 2009

A Summary of the New Perspective on Paul from The Paul Page

September 24, 2013 at 6:00 pm Comments (0)

Walking Through God’s Creation

Today for September’s Synchroblog several bloggers are posting on the title “Loving Nature – Is God Green?” This post is my contribution. Please also read other contributors to the synchroblog by following the links at the bottom of this post.

Sundays in August

IMG_5871In August our church spends time out doors – we go for picnics in parks or walks in the countryside. These replace our usual Sunday services and are great times to invite friends to. I always love these times and get to as many as I can.

These are times when we can eat our packed lunches together and enjoy each other’s company but they are also times to revel in God’s creation. These are often opportunities to get out of an urban environment to walk in woodlands or at least to relax in the greenery of one of Birmingham’s parks.

It is great to be outside worshiping God through creation. God’s creation is important. It’s times like this that I feel reminded by God that we all have a part to play in looking after this beautiful world that he has given us.

Worshiping God through creation

IMG_5868What I like is both getting some good healthy exercise and time to wonder at the greatness of our king in making and sustaining each shade of colour in the trees and the sky. I must confess to sometimes finding a sense of oneness with God, of wholeness and peace on such occasions.

It can be just great to look up at the trees, to see an awesome horizon in the distance or even hold a leaf and meditate on its intricacies. Yes, I do things like that! God created all of these from the greatest to the smallest. This is the God that I know and intimately experience.

As Christians thinking of creation often leads to the creationist debate that puts the Bible at odds with science. Perhaps we need to get beyond such unhelpful debates. Instead we need to get to grips with the amazing wonder of creation and with our mandate not just to rule creation but also caring for creation on God’s behalf.IMG_5888

Why God’s creation is important

The Bible teaches we are stewards of God’s creation. God has given it for us as humans to rule on his behalf. This means we are to care for it and treat it respectfully. Just because we can increasingly control elements of the natural world does not mean that we can do with them as we please.

Damaging our environment will have consequences that we will have to live with perhaps for many generations. I know this idea may jar with those who expect Jesus to return at any moment. But I believe that we need to take such a long term view and it is irresponsible not to care because you think, ‘It will all burn anyway’!

We all have our part to play

I am glad that environmental issues are now more mainstream than they used to be – and not just the domain of extreme left-wing politics or new-agers. It’s now the norm to recycle much of our waste – at least here in the UK. Some of us also compost food waste. It’s a pity that others have led the way in this and as Christians we have been so slow of the mark to speak out on to the Bible’s teaching of stewardship.

I think it is great that we are now beginning to hear more of a positive Christian perspective on environment issues. If you want to know more you might be interested in exploring my brief selection of links below from such organisations as the Evangelical Alliance, Christian Aid, and Christianity Today. Don’t forget take a look at what other bloggers think on this issue too.

Further Reading

Christian Aid has a number of resources including these Climate Change Policy Papers
The Evangelical Alliance has a list of Christian Environmental Groups with more links to follow.
One of the groups listed, Christian Ecology Link has a number of leaflets such as this one on Ethical Investment

Related Posts

Planting New Life in Detroit’s Vacated Landscape – a link post to a Christianity Today article on Urban Agriculture.

Posts taking part in this synchroblog

September 17, 2013 at 6:00 pm Comment (1)

New Wine School of Missional Leadership – Part 3

Concluding this series here are the rest of my notes from the School of Missional Leadership.

Missional leadership on purpose

The following day Mick Woodhead said something that really spoke to me at the beginning of his talk: ‘The place for healing is on the mission field not at the front of the church”.

He then went on to explain how in last ten years people can follow many people over the internet – but it is good to follow people who are next door and available.

As a starter he suggested listing the top ten people who are most likely to see you as a role model (apart from your family).

His main point on how to find people to lead involved what he called the 4Rs

Recognise

From Luke chapter 10 he told us to look for what he called “the person of peace”
• the person who likes you – they chat with you
• listens to you – they are interested in you
• serves you – they get you a cup of coffee
Of these people particularly choose those who people gather around or who go round to people.

He suggested include University students if you can as these are the most under reached group in our country

Raise them up

Linking back to what Nick Haigh had set he encouraged us to meet with them, huddle with them (even if it’s just four of you briefly over coffee once a month), get them on board.

Release

Give them opportunity to serve and apprentice them.

Resource them

Provide them with everything you have

Missional Leadership: What will be!

Mark Carey rounded off the school by looking getting us to think what we had learned and to begin to think about planning for the future.

Discipleship

His main concern was that we were discipled primarily by Jesus but also by someone following Jesus – mainly in character but maybe also in competence – but could find that elsewhere – it’s up to you to look.

A test he suggested for those you attempt to make yourselves accountable to is do they say “how have you got on with what we talked about before?” If they say this – especially if it makes you squirm because you haven’t done anything – this is a good sign that they are good people to disciple you.

Mark Carey has a monthly huddle via skype call including others being huddled. But it might be better for it to be more often, he said.

“I need some accountability I need someone to say, “How are you getting on with this”? I cannot do this on my own or I will be continually picked off by the enemy. You have to go after and find other people you can be accountable to.”

Kairos

God's TimeMark encouraged us to take small steps – not too many steps at once or we miss out too much. Focus more on the process for our sake and those we are leading not too much on the destination. It may involve deliberately stopping something or letting some things slip so that you can concentrate on what God want you to be doing.

He encouraged us to get on and ‘Just do something’ and then evaluate it as we go.

The Greek word Kairos in Mark 1:14 the time he explained means an opportune moment – a time of breakthrough. In this time we are to repent by observing, reflecting and discussing and then believe by planning accounting (being making yourself accountable) and acting:

Mark Carey concluded by exhorting us in our missional contexts to look at what has happened, what is happening now and set goals of what will be.

September 11, 2013 at 6:00 pm Comment (1)

New Wine School of Missional Leadership – Part 2

Here are more my notes from the School of Missional Leadership including the Character of a Missional Leader and a Disciple Who Makes Disciples as well as an extra seminar on by Andy Hawthorne who has initiated a number of missional enterprises.

Character of Missional Leader

Jesus followed a cultural model of a Rabbi when he invited people to follow him. How do we invitee people today into our lives?

I don’t usually like football but I was deeply touched by this powerful clip that Diane Kershaw showed us from Chasing Eric that highlights to importance of building relationship and working together.

Dianne went on to outline some principles of team work. Talk to God about people more than you talk to people about God she said and Challenge those who want to be in a challenging environment but leave others alone.

Jesus modelled vulnerability – people saw him in his most dire moments going to the cross. Be vulnerable – recognise where you’ve got things wrong and admit it – good spiritual recovery involves forgiveness and repentance.

Some people may feel unsafe if you are too vulnerable but there are some you can talk more deeply with who will be helped by you sharing your weaknesses.

New day of enterprise

Later that day I went to another additional seminar with Andy Hawthorn of the Message Trust.

Andy Hawthorn said that three things that vulnerable people who come to Christ need: a job, a good home and a supportive community. But today 20% young people unemployed, 10% graduates.

The Eden Project brings together Christ centred domestic enterprise (giving people jobs), creative arts and community transformation.

Following in footsteps of Booth’s Salvation Army match factories – the Message Trust developed 5 enterprises: hair & beauty, café, wedding business, cycle recycling and a building team.

Andy Hawthorn believes that the church is positioned perfectly to provide work for unemployed people.

A disciple who makes disciples

On the next day Nick Haigh explained how we all have different personalities some prefer to be a sheep – happy in our relationship with Christ – others prefer to be shepherds and activists.

Some of us need to make an effort to realise our responsibility to disciple others rather than just take time on our own to pray – others – visa versa.

He encouraged us to meet in a ‘huddle’ with those 4 to 12 people we are doing mission with. Discuss how you live your life in 3 dimensions – up (spirituality), in (support network), out (service) and ask how it is going for them, he said. You may need to explain spirituality however it is appropriate if they are not Christians.

September 10, 2013 at 6:00 pm Comment (1)

New Wine School of Missional Leadership – Part 1

One of the aspects of New Wine summer conference that I really enjoyed was the seminars. The main set of seminars that I went to was the school of missional leadership. Over the next three days I plan to blog some of my notes from them. Sorry these are so rough and sketchy. I trust that they will make some sense to you.

What is Missional Leadership?

Reporter's notebookMark Carey led the school and began by quoting Mike Breen’s definition of a missional leader “someone who mobilises God’s people to join his redemptive work in the world”

It is important to get to the point where you hear what God is calling you to do and don’t just keep things going in the church. Get other people to this point too. Get others on board with you. Build a team. Multiply!

Get others to imitate you – don’t just do it all yourself. Giving work over to others may mean settling for a lower standard. It might be the most unlikely one will travel with you – some may be there for a time – like booster rockets.

All can be on this mission – even those with special needs. But it requires being a radically committed disciple.

Low Control and High Accountability

An important principle was one of low control but high accountability. What did he mean by this?

Low control means we need to get them to a point to hear God for themselves rather than telling people what to do. This may involve allowing people to make mistakes and learn from their mistakes.

High accountability means reminding people of the goals they set themselves and ask people how they are doing with respect to these goals. I think if they haven’t yet achieved them then we could ask questions such as: Has anything changed? What are the barriers?

Group Work

As well as a talk most days we also had time for group work. In this first session Mark Carey finally asked us to discuss what God had highlighted to us from this and what we were going to do about it.

Listening for Deeper Mission and Multiplication

In addition to the missional leadership school I also went to this additional seminar on listening for deeper mission and multiplication with Bob and Mary Hopkins where we looked at ‘360 degree listening’. This complimented what we were learning in the school well.

Examine the ‘mission field’ of the community you wish to reach – spy out the land – observe and listen to your community – as well as wider society and observe and listen to your people/team/church/etc as well as to God and to the scriptures

Collect information e.g. facts and figures, but also use intuition/instinct and inspiration (what God shows us).

Where are the hubs where people gather? Try to understand how relationships work in your area for instance we could ask “Are there networks based on location?” and “Are there networks by association?”

We were encouraged to test out things and reflect as our assumptions about the mission field may need adjusting!

God has a complete answer to our situation and so we need to plumb the depths of the gospel in how we present gospel. For instance as we build friendships we show people that God wants to be people’s friends.

More tomorrow…

September 9, 2013 at 6:00 pm Comments (0)

The Evangelicals You Don’t Know by Tom Krattenmaker

Who is this book for?

This book is for anyone who wants to be introduced to the activities of some key names in a growing cluster of younger born again Americans. These are believers who don’t adhere to the right wing politics of many of their predecessors and so would not necessarily identify with the Religious Right of the Republican Party.

So who are these evangelicals?

Rather than focusing on church leaders within this grouping Tom Krattenmaker’s book outlines the work of a number of community activists and writers. He profiles such people as Kevin Palau, Stephanie and Shoshon Tama-Sweet, Tony Kriz, Lisa Sharon Harper, Dan Merchant, Paul Louis Metzger, Gabe Lyons and more.

He shows how each of these have worked on different issues related to social justice and on showing God’s love especially to the marginalised. He then goes on to explain how this fits into the current social and political scene in the States.

What impact might this book have on its readers?

You may find that The Evangelicals You Don’t Know introduces you to a new set of reading but more importantly that it gets you seeing your God given mission with new eyes.

Hopefully your appetite will be whet for more information on these evangelicals who pour themselves into social action rather than proclaiming the sort of moral rhetoric that all too often alienates people.

As you search the internet for blogs and articles about these activists and their work I pray that you will begin to see how God is beginning to do a new thing in many areas of America. And hopefully their efforts will inspire you do work on your own mission field in this way.

Do I have any criticism?

American flagThis book is the result of a lot of detailed research. The casual reader may find this heavy going. This is not helped by the writer going back and forth between issues and not always staying with the person concerned. Nevertheless, this did not spoil my enjoyment.

What did I particularly like about the book?

Tom Krattenmaker is not an evangelical and so as an evangelical myself I was pleased with his fair and objective assessment of these people.

I also liked the way that the book filled in many gaps in my understanding of American politics. Coming from outside the USA I found his assessment of current thinking of Americans on such topics as gay marriage, abortion and environmentalism very helpful.

Why would I recommend The Evangelicals You Don’t Know?

The people outlined in this book may be new to you or you may have already heard of some or all of them perhaps through blogs or social media. Either way this book gives you a fairly systematic introduction to a number of current movers and shakers who are not to be overlooked.

Please read this book and let me know what you think.

8/10

Thanks to Mike Morrell of the SpeakEasy network for sending me this book to review free of charge. I was not required to write a positive review. These are my true opinions.

Further Reading

Tom Krattenmaker’s blog
Tom Krattenmaker on Facebook
Tom Krattenmaker on Twitter

Tom on the StoryMen podcast
StoryMen – Krattenmaker interview on YouTube

Tom Krattenmaker also writes for the Huffington Post. Here are a couple of his articles that are particularly relevant to The Evangelicals You Don’t Know:
6 Evangelicals You Don’t Know… But Might Want To
A Progressive’s Confessional Journey to Focus on the Family

Buy The Evangelicals You Don’t Know at Amazon.co.uk or Amazon.com

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My Review of Hometown Prophet by Jeff Fulmer
God Bless Barack Obama

August 26, 2013 at 6:00 pm Comments (0)

My Holiday at New Wine

This year for our family holiday we went to New Wine in Newark summer conference with nearly 30 members of our church. New Wine is a week long Bible camp. It is predominately charismatic Anglicans although many other types of churches take part.
New Wine
If you are keen on the big main meetings then New Wine will appear very much like a number of other Bible weeks that are around. Each of these had a thousand or more worshipping to modern worship music with usually a talk by a well known speaker followed by an invitation to go forward for prayer ministry.

But to be honest this wasn’t the main attraction for me. Not only was I more interested in the some of the seminars and art workshops during the day but also some of the music and comedy that rounded off each evening. And of course if you know me you’d know that I’d be heading for the prayer room.

Sanctuary

P1000577One of the main things I loved about New Wine was the early morning prayer-times in the Sanctuary venue. It was a pity that its location was so close to other venues where the music was so loud. I understand it had been moved at the last minute. But it was possible to work round this.

I found two good times to be there: just after 7:00 am and at lunch time. So I was out across the campsite to Sanctuary most mornings and went two or three times for lunch time prayers. There were probably 20 or 30 people there each time and it was great as there was very little sound from other venues.

Sanctuary had a number of prayer stations with activities and suggested ways to pray and meditate and prayer walls where you could scribble thoughts and prayers. They were open most of the day but also had some more structured prayer and worship at specific times with Celtic style prayers and poetic liturgies.

I must confess that I preferred Sanctuary to the big loud worship gatherings in the other venues. Not that there was anything wrong with them. I thought they way they did the café style venues in them where you could sit and drink coffee was a great idea. I just didn’t really connect with any of these gatherings.

The school of missional leadership

I really enjoyed the school of missional leadership was an excellent eye opener on this subject. The week long series of seminars were not just talks on related themes but included group work that enabled us to begin to work through the material.

I came back with notes that I will post shortly and that hopefully can be applied in our own situation with projects such as WorkShop.

Arts & crafts

In the 3:16 venue I got to do sessions on art-journaling and ‘stitch-a-prayer’ needlework. I chose these two as rather than just learning skills they were using them in a more devotional way.

There was also an opportunity to create a picture there while listening to an evening celebration via the radio which I did one evening

P1000609On Thursday evening they had an exhibition of all the arts and crafts that had been done throughout the week.

After hours

The after-hours that I went to most was the comedy. I went to three sessions of Andy Kind who was hilarious.

On the first night I went to hear Steve Parsons, which turned out to be the music highlight of the week for me. I loved the fact it had a bar and I got a Guinness and sat on the front row soaking up some spiritual wisdom from this guy as he performed his songs. One after another these songs spoke deep into my heart.

I was glad that we had a caravan so that I could be quiet and rest during the day – often when my wife was off at one of the main meetings – and that the after-hours were not too late especially as I was getting up for the early morning prayer.

How does New Wine compare to other Christian camps like Spring Harvest or Greenbelt?

Spring Harvest

Having been to Spring Harvest a couple of times before I found New Wine is very similar. They had similar worship times, seminars, contemplative prayer venues and exhibitions and stalls.

However:

• New Wine had a larger variety of seminars with noticeably more charismatic input including a number of seminars on spiritual gifts and accounts of healings.

• Spring Harvest has the advantage of some of the Butlins entertainment being available. But then New Wine had the arts & crafts workshops.

• If you bring your own tent camping at New Wine can be cheaper but less comfortable than a chalet at Butlins for Spring Harvest. However it is more expensive if like us you hire a caravan.

• Seven full days at New Wine is longer than you get at Spring Harvest which is 5 or 6 days. Greenbelt is even shorter – a long weekend of 4 days over the August Bank Holiday.

Greenbelt Festival

New Wine was great but I am sorely missing Greenbelt this year. I am looking forward to returning to Greenbelt in a year or two. It was interesting that what I liked at New Wine were the parts most like Greenbelt. But unlike Greenbelt at New Wine everything comes from an evangelical charismatic perspective.

P1000661I must also say there was nowhere near the choice of activities that you find at Greenbelt where you can often pick between music, worship, talks and discussion and other activities at the same time. And there is a lot more contemplative worship at Greenbelt.

Would I go to New Wine again?

I don’t know. New Wine may have been a one off for us but it was certainly worth it. Our daughter would love to go back another year so we may possibly return if our church’s youth group goes again.

I’m interested in perusing this year’s memory stick of the recordings that our church is purchasing and I’d definitely want to have a listen to any that our church buys in coming years too.

Related Posts

Spring Harvest: More than just the big top
10 Highlights of my Greenbelt this year
What if Greenbelt and Spring Harvest merged?

Further Reading

New Wine – the official site

August 21, 2013 at 6:00 pm Comment (1)

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August 13, 2013 at 6:00 pm Comments (0)

7 Lessons on Hearing the Spirit from 1 Kings 13

Several weeks ago we had a visiting speaker at church who spoke on Hearing the Spirit. I understand that he spoke from 1 Kings 13 but I didn’t hear any of the talk as I was teaching the children at the same time.

The talk was not recorded and all I had was the questions that he gave us to use to discuss them. When we discussed them at our house I did hear some of the points but a lot of the time I was putting my daughter to bed.

But I thought it would be good to grapple with the passage using the questions and see if I could make some sense of it myself. These seven lessons is what I came up with:

1. To hear is to obey

Israelite altar at Beer-Sheva A man of God comes from Judah to Bethel and prophecies to the alter in front of King Jeroboam that a later king called Josiah will sacrifice the priests of the false gods on that alter.

Though the king heard what the man of God said he didn’t like it as it reminded him that Yahweh did not approve of the way he was leading the nation to worship other God’s. The way to really hear this would be for him to sacrifice the priests not wait until a later king did it. But he would not.

2. God speaks to people even when he speaks to something else

Prophesying to an object is a literary device that is sometimes used by prophets.
Though the prophet spoke to the alter God was really speaking to the humans – the pinnacle of his creation – who he knew would hear the words.

Later in the story God uses animals but his purposes are towards the people in the story as people are made in God’s image.

3. Be quick to listen and slow to speak

The King was slow to listen – he heard but did not obey – but like many extraverts today he was quick to speak. First he said “Seize him”. God punished his attack on his prophet by shrivelling his hand. He then asked for God to heal his hand and then offered hospitality and a gift as a thank you or payment for the healing.

The man of God had obviously meditated on what God was saying and knew that to receive hospitality did not fit in with God’s plan no matter how tempting. He did not act on a whim and may have found it hard to speak up and refuse the King but nevertheless he did refuse.

4. Discern the Spirit’s voice from that of others

An old prophet from Bethel then lies to him saying that an angel has visited him and asked him to offer hospitality to the man of God.

There are many who claim to be speaking God word in some way or other today – whether in prophecy or teaching. It is important to discern who is really speaking the truth – using both our minds and our spirits. Often there is mixture that we need to sift and sometimes they may actually be lying – claiming divine revelation or encounters with angels – as this old prophet did here.

5. Misrepresenting God may have consequences for those you lead astray

The man of God accepts. But then God speaks to the old prophet that the man of God will be judged for disobeying what he knew God had told him. The man of God leaves and is killed by a lion.

The danger of misrepresenting God is that people may be gullible and believe you. God will hold them accountable if deep down they know that those words are not in accord with God has spoken yet they still comply and do what you say.

6. A prophet may not always be honoured

God called the man of God from Judah to speak in Bethel – where people would not be over familiar with him. He was deceived and fell in Judah and did not receive honour in his own town by being buried with his ancestors but finally he was honoured in Bethel by the old prophet who gave him his own tomb.

7. Three distractions from hearing the Spirit

In the parable of the sower Jesus highlighted three distractions from hearing God that we can also see in this story:

a. Difficulties

The man of God appeared in some senses like the good soil but perhaps words are not rooted well enough and the difficulty of hunger meant that he fell for the old prophets lies.

b. Lack of understanding

His lack of understanding appears to have allowed the old prophet to act out of false motives but perhaps he was like the good soil in the end as he did honour the man of God.

c. Riches

The king though was clearly in bondage to riches and cares of this world. A trap that the man of God rejected when offered the gift by the king.

I really don’t know if this bears much resemblance to the original sermon but I trust that you found it interesting and edifying anyway.

Hey Andrew, what do you think?

August 6, 2013 at 6:00 pm Comments (0)

Stop Waiting for the Spirit

I ended my previous post with the words “So what are you waiting for?” How can I say “stop waiting”? Aren’t we commanded to wait for the Spirit? After all didn’t Jesus say to his followers that they must wait for the gift the father had promised – that is the gift of the Holy Spirit? Surely if the early disciples had to wait so do we?

The Holy Spirit has already been given

WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR ?We often talk about waiting for the Spirit but today as Christians we do not have to wait at all. The Holy Spirit was poured out at Pentecost. The Spirit was given to the church then. There is no more waiting.

When we follow Jesus by turning from our previous way of life in repentance and embracing a new way by faith then we become eligible to receive the Holy Spirit in the same way that the first decuples did.

You can receive the Holy Spirit now

If what you mean by waiting is fervently asking and drinking now but nothing is happening then don’t give up. But the baptism in the Spirit is something you can experience straight away. Don’t delay your asking or receiving by saying well I’m waiting on God for his time.

You don’t have to wait until we are mature or until a certain time has passed. You’re not in the same position as the first disciples during that ten day period. You can experience the Holy Spirit straight away. Stop waiting and start receiving!

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